Was scanning the bands last night and came across the first ever performance of a choir in morse code
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Carl Blaresays
More More That was great and I agree with the description “almost musical”.
What could it ever be?
How could so many sendings at slightly different audio pitches combine together?
I will be watching this thread with great interest to hear the opinions as they roll in.
MICRO1700says
I know what it is… It’s just a whole lot of amateur
radio operators all over the place
trying to make contact with a “DX”
station. They are all on slightly
different frequencies, so the pitches
are all slightly different.
I caught bits of ham radio callsigns
when I was listening to the recording.
There was one “K0” station that kept
coming up over and over. (So that’s
a U.S. station whole callsign starts with
K, and his callsign has the number zero in
it.) Most of the good DX can be found on
the low end of the ham bands, and even though
most people in the world aren’t using Morse
code, it is still very much alive in ham radio.
I’m not into this sort of thing, but I have to
respect these operators. Their code is FAST, and
to me that’s really something. My Morse code skills
are not good, I am very very slow. I talked to a
guy every Friday night for a couple of years with
the code. We used old tube ham radio equipment, and
it was really fun.
The reason they are all down on 7016 kHz is because
most of the DX stations are there – as I said – and in many
countries – the 40 meter ham band only goes up to
7100 kHz. Here in the U.S., our allocation goes up
to 7300. Also, like texting, the Morse code has
abbreviations that are known internationally, so
you can “talk” to a guy whose language you don’t
know, and if he doesn’t know our language – it doesn’t
matter.
Two more things – this thing you heard is known as a
“DX pile up.” The other thing is – a lot of this
code could have been generated by computers – i.e, –
the repetitious call signs that are sent over and over –
but – when it comes to receiving – you have to have
really good ears. A computer will not hack it. You
really have to know what you are doing.
I love the code because it reminds me of when I was first
licensed as a ham in 1971. It make me feel young.
There has not been any time to get on my ham station
lately.
That was a great recording!
Best Wishes,
Bruce
RFBsays
Multi-Station Reception Fully agree with Bruce. Sounds just like a reception of various CW stations on close and same frequency, propagation effects and wide-band receiver setting.
Only thing weird is the assumption about it being some kind of warning message.
I think some fresh air might help. :p
RFB
thevalley1700amsays
yay Thanks for your replies. Helps clear lots of things up. I just though the whole thing was so beautiful sounding.
That was the first time in a while I had such good reception inside my apartment on the Grundig.
thevalley1700amsays
deciphering So could any of you decipher any of the messages???
Plug a mic into your soundcard, point it at the speaker playing back the video and watch the fun begin.
MICRO1700says
1971 Morse Code Ham Radio It DOES sound really cool,
doesn’t it? It’s a great sound!
Back in 1971, when I started out
in ham radio, there were frequencies
set aside for people with the first
level of ham license – which was
called the NOVICE license. You were
only permitted to operate Morse Code.
The Novice frequencies were jammed
with Morse signals. All sorts of
conversations were on top of each other.
The trick was to listen to the pitch
of the station you were talking to.
Your ears got to be really good.
Morse code was still being used in
other radio services, so we all felt
like we were running “BIG TIME” communications
set-ups.
A lot of the equipment (well – transmitters
anyway) – was home made.
Mostly everybody was using old used vacuum tube
equipment. We had to keep operating logs.
Even if we sent out a general call, and
nobody answered – well, that had to be logged
too – just as a transmission that was made.
You would put the time and frequency into
the operating log, and then make the
notation of, “no answer.”
They were great days. Most of the young
people then (and there were tons of them,)
were looking to go into engineering or
electronics. What a great way to learn!
My first transmitter was a Johnson Viking
Challenger, which could run 120 watts DC
input. It was made in 1956, so it was
17 years old when I got it. I was really
really scared of it, because sometimes it
would arc on the inside. It always thought
it was going to blow up. One day I turned
it on and the final tubes shorted (6DQ6s).
I’m so glad the transmitter had a fuse,
or my ham station would have been blown
sky high!
The receiver was a Heathkit HR-10B. Probably
one of the coolest looking receivers. Also,
one of the worst designed rigs and most difficult
to use. The BFO injection was very poor,
so all code signals sounded raspy. If you
replaced the BFO tube – which was a 6EA8,
the BFO would run clean for a couple of
months, and then something would go wrong
with the tube and you would be back where
you started. Either somebody built the
radio incorrectly, or it was just a bad
design.
Also, for a radio with tons of vacuum
tubes, it DID NOT have any regulator
tube. I had replaced the 6X4 rectifier,
thinking that would do some good, but
to no avail. That radio drifted all over
the place. I was always retuning, as
different appliances were being turned
on and off in my parent’s house. Not
to mention, the cycling of the furnace
and the kitchen fridge.
But I love the HR-10B for what it is.
It hears the AM ham stations really
well. So I have one. (Another one,
not the original.)
Those were very interesting days.
Bruce, First ham radio callsign
issued DEC. 7, 1971 (30 years after
Pearl Harbor) was: WN1POI
P.S. I’ll have to listen to that
recording again.
RFBsays
Drawback “We had to keep operating logs. Even if we sent out a general call, and nobody answered – well, that had to be logged too – just as a transmission that was made. You would put the time and frequency into the operating log, and then make the notation of, “no answer.”
Back in the day when the concern for trees wasn’t a concern. It was a time of waste, a time of unnecessary burden, a time of spending more time stroking a pen than hitting the key.
It was one of many things that was totally useless. Somewhere in someone’s basement are decades of these log books which would make excellent fireplace kindling. Or bird cage lining.
RFB
Carl Blaresays
My Rich Friends My rich friend Pudge Gentry Snooter lines her bird cage with gift paper from Nieman-Marcus.
My other rich friend, Preppy Pruneface, has some of those paper dresses from the 1950s. Did you know that attempts were made to make paper clothing popular?
I even remember one dress that had wires and a radio built in. Oh, wait, that was in a Stan Freberg bit for the Radio Advertising Bureau.
Richsays
“Friends” Sorry that you have only two rich friends.
Hope you might discover/recognize a rich friend or two with a more useful technical background than those of the “friends” you posted.
mram1500says
Educated Fools My Boss Called ’em… Ya mean the ones with more money than brains?
Carl Blaresays
More Than Two I have more than two rich friends.
Ever since the Tecsun PL-310.
mram1500says
Root of Evil… Be careful Carl. They may just be using you.
Carl Blaresays
Tuff Talk If somebody uses me, I know what to do.
I’ll use somebody else.
I’m not sure what that would amount to, but tuff talk happens before thinking things over.
Relating it to part 15, there’s the real problem.
radio8zsays
CW That recording did not sound unusual to me. The 40 meter CW band can be, and often is, like this. It is likely that some of the stations transmitting don’t hear the others and think the frequency is clear. This is due to the propagation on 40 where sometimes signals skip and come to earth at 400 to 600 mile intervals.
I am rusty on CW but there is a station calling CQ and another where just the call sign W8IQ is repeated every few seconds. This might be a beacon because usually a station calling or trying to break into a net will end the call with a K which indicates they are listening, same as “over” on voice.
Now for the boring part. While trying to get my code up to 20 WPM I listened a lot on the low bands and became accustomed to copying with background noise and the ear and brain has an amazing filtering ability in this regard. It paid off when I sat for the CW test administered by the FCC. It was held at a motel in one of those conference rooms with the soft divider wall and the test was played on a tape recorder and speaker and not with headphones as was done at the field offices. Just as they began the test with the code tape a dance band began rehearsing on the other side of the divider but I had no problem with my copy. There were about 15 taking the test and only two of us passed and the other fellow also had a lot of over the air practice. Some asked if they could restart the test but the FCC examiner told us that there is only one chance at the test and once it starts that is it. He acknowledged that the band was a problem but he had to follow the rules.
Neil
Carl Blaresays
Code Memories Many people remember the dance bands of their youth, but I remember code school at Fort Ord, California, where my Army request to be to be attached to a radio assignment was that infantry code training.
I had submitted a researched paper with my application listing hundreds of military broadcast and recording installations throughout the world, but their response was a huge disappointment, for which reason I became annoyed by the tone of the code signal and tried to avoid their junk ear-phones most of the time.
Today I know almost no code as a result. It did not come into my life in the romantic way that HAMs remember.
Carl Blare says
More More
That was great and I agree with the description “almost musical”.
What could it ever be?
How could so many sendings at slightly different audio pitches combine together?
I will be watching this thread with great interest to hear the opinions as they roll in.
MICRO1700 says
I know what it is…
It’s just a whole lot of amateur
radio operators all over the place
trying to make contact with a “DX”
station. They are all on slightly
different frequencies, so the pitches
are all slightly different.
I caught bits of ham radio callsigns
when I was listening to the recording.
There was one “K0” station that kept
coming up over and over. (So that’s
a U.S. station whole callsign starts with
K, and his callsign has the number zero in
it.) Most of the good DX can be found on
the low end of the ham bands, and even though
most people in the world aren’t using Morse
code, it is still very much alive in ham radio.
I’m not into this sort of thing, but I have to
respect these operators. Their code is FAST, and
to me that’s really something. My Morse code skills
are not good, I am very very slow. I talked to a
guy every Friday night for a couple of years with
the code. We used old tube ham radio equipment, and
it was really fun.
The reason they are all down on 7016 kHz is because
most of the DX stations are there – as I said – and in many
countries – the 40 meter ham band only goes up to
7100 kHz. Here in the U.S., our allocation goes up
to 7300. Also, like texting, the Morse code has
abbreviations that are known internationally, so
you can “talk” to a guy whose language you don’t
know, and if he doesn’t know our language – it doesn’t
matter.
Two more things – this thing you heard is known as a
“DX pile up.” The other thing is – a lot of this
code could have been generated by computers – i.e, –
the repetitious call signs that are sent over and over –
but – when it comes to receiving – you have to have
really good ears. A computer will not hack it. You
really have to know what you are doing.
I love the code because it reminds me of when I was first
licensed as a ham in 1971. It make me feel young.
There has not been any time to get on my ham station
lately.
That was a great recording!
Best Wishes,
Bruce
RFB says
Multi-Station Reception
Fully agree with Bruce. Sounds just like a reception of various CW stations on close and same frequency, propagation effects and wide-band receiver setting.
Only thing weird is the assumption about it being some kind of warning message.
I think some fresh air might help. :p
RFB
thevalley1700am says
yay
Thanks for your replies. Helps clear lots of things up. I just though the whole thing was so beautiful sounding.
That was the first time in a while I had such good reception inside my apartment on the Grundig.
thevalley1700am says
deciphering
So could any of you decipher any of the messages???
Would be really hard I bet
Annandale Terrace Radio says
CW Reader Software
Pull down a copy of “CW Skimmer” from Afreet Software
(http://www.dxatlas.com/CwSkimmer/)
Plug a mic into your soundcard, point it at the speaker playing back the video and watch the fun begin.
MICRO1700 says
1971 Morse Code Ham Radio
It DOES sound really cool,
doesn’t it? It’s a great sound!
Back in 1971, when I started out
in ham radio, there were frequencies
set aside for people with the first
level of ham license – which was
called the NOVICE license. You were
only permitted to operate Morse Code.
The Novice frequencies were jammed
with Morse signals. All sorts of
conversations were on top of each other.
The trick was to listen to the pitch
of the station you were talking to.
Your ears got to be really good.
Morse code was still being used in
other radio services, so we all felt
like we were running “BIG TIME” communications
set-ups.
A lot of the equipment (well – transmitters
anyway) – was home made.
Mostly everybody was using old used vacuum tube
equipment. We had to keep operating logs.
Even if we sent out a general call, and
nobody answered – well, that had to be logged
too – just as a transmission that was made.
You would put the time and frequency into
the operating log, and then make the
notation of, “no answer.”
They were great days. Most of the young
people then (and there were tons of them,)
were looking to go into engineering or
electronics. What a great way to learn!
My first transmitter was a Johnson Viking
Challenger, which could run 120 watts DC
input. It was made in 1956, so it was
17 years old when I got it. I was really
really scared of it, because sometimes it
would arc on the inside. It always thought
it was going to blow up. One day I turned
it on and the final tubes shorted (6DQ6s).
I’m so glad the transmitter had a fuse,
or my ham station would have been blown
sky high!
The receiver was a Heathkit HR-10B. Probably
one of the coolest looking receivers. Also,
one of the worst designed rigs and most difficult
to use. The BFO injection was very poor,
so all code signals sounded raspy. If you
replaced the BFO tube – which was a 6EA8,
the BFO would run clean for a couple of
months, and then something would go wrong
with the tube and you would be back where
you started. Either somebody built the
radio incorrectly, or it was just a bad
design.
Also, for a radio with tons of vacuum
tubes, it DID NOT have any regulator
tube. I had replaced the 6X4 rectifier,
thinking that would do some good, but
to no avail. That radio drifted all over
the place. I was always retuning, as
different appliances were being turned
on and off in my parent’s house. Not
to mention, the cycling of the furnace
and the kitchen fridge.
But I love the HR-10B for what it is.
It hears the AM ham stations really
well. So I have one. (Another one,
not the original.)
Those were very interesting days.
Bruce, First ham radio callsign
issued DEC. 7, 1971 (30 years after
Pearl Harbor) was: WN1POI
P.S. I’ll have to listen to that
recording again.
RFB says
Drawback
“We had to keep operating logs. Even if we sent out a general call, and nobody answered – well, that had to be logged too – just as a transmission that was made. You would put the time and frequency into the operating log, and then make the notation of, “no answer.”
Back in the day when the concern for trees wasn’t a concern. It was a time of waste, a time of unnecessary burden, a time of spending more time stroking a pen than hitting the key.
It was one of many things that was totally useless. Somewhere in someone’s basement are decades of these log books which would make excellent fireplace kindling. Or bird cage lining.
RFB
Carl Blare says
My Rich Friends
My rich friend Pudge Gentry Snooter lines her bird cage with gift paper from Nieman-Marcus.
My other rich friend, Preppy Pruneface, has some of those paper dresses from the 1950s. Did you know that attempts were made to make paper clothing popular?
I even remember one dress that had wires and a radio built in. Oh, wait, that was in a Stan Freberg bit for the Radio Advertising Bureau.
Rich says
“Friends”
Sorry that you have only two rich friends.
Hope you might discover/recognize a rich friend or two with a more useful technical background than those of the “friends” you posted.
mram1500 says
Educated Fools My Boss Called ’em…
Ya mean the ones with more money than brains?
Carl Blare says
More Than Two
I have more than two rich friends.
Ever since the Tecsun PL-310.
mram1500 says
Root of Evil…
Be careful Carl. They may just be using you.
Carl Blare says
Tuff Talk
If somebody uses me, I know what to do.
I’ll use somebody else.
I’m not sure what that would amount to, but tuff talk happens before thinking things over.
Relating it to part 15, there’s the real problem.
radio8z says
CW
That recording did not sound unusual to me. The 40 meter CW band can be, and often is, like this. It is likely that some of the stations transmitting don’t hear the others and think the frequency is clear. This is due to the propagation on 40 where sometimes signals skip and come to earth at 400 to 600 mile intervals.
I am rusty on CW but there is a station calling CQ and another where just the call sign W8IQ is repeated every few seconds. This might be a beacon because usually a station calling or trying to break into a net will end the call with a K which indicates they are listening, same as “over” on voice.
Now for the boring part. While trying to get my code up to 20 WPM I listened a lot on the low bands and became accustomed to copying with background noise and the ear and brain has an amazing filtering ability in this regard. It paid off when I sat for the CW test administered by the FCC. It was held at a motel in one of those conference rooms with the soft divider wall and the test was played on a tape recorder and speaker and not with headphones as was done at the field offices. Just as they began the test with the code tape a dance band began rehearsing on the other side of the divider but I had no problem with my copy. There were about 15 taking the test and only two of us passed and the other fellow also had a lot of over the air practice. Some asked if they could restart the test but the FCC examiner told us that there is only one chance at the test and once it starts that is it. He acknowledged that the band was a problem but he had to follow the rules.
Neil
Carl Blare says
Code Memories
Many people remember the dance bands of their youth, but I remember code school at Fort Ord, California, where my Army request to be to be attached to a radio assignment was that infantry code training.
I had submitted a researched paper with my application listing hundreds of military broadcast and recording installations throughout the world, but their response was a huge disappointment, for which reason I became annoyed by the tone of the code signal and tried to avoid their junk ear-phones most of the time.
Today I know almost no code as a result. It did not come into my life in the romantic way that HAMs remember.
MICRO1700 says
Great Stories! Also
My Mother had a paper dress.
But it was in the late 1960s
or early 1970s.
And it sure didn’t look like paper.
Bruce, SLUG 88.3