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Hi

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I am currently in the process of setting up a part 15 am radio station. I currently have a talking house transmitter. I wanted to get an outdoor antenna so I can increase my range. Here is my question.
Do you need the range extender/antenna tuner and the outdoor antenna and the Coaxial Cable or can I just get the outdoor antenna with the coaxial cable?


 
Posted : 18/11/2010 7:52 pm
 Anonymous
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If you look on the back of the transmitter, you will find the "F" connector for the external antenna connector in close proximity to the switch which feeds the radio signal directly to the connector. The outdoor antenna connector REQUIRES the use of the "range extender/tuner" and RG-6 (73 ohm) coaxial feedline with matching series "F" connectors at each end.

There are two reasons for this. One, an external antenna cannot be used with just the cable and antenna and still maintain FCC certification (range extender required). And second, the transmitter requires the tuning circuitry of the "range extender/tuner" to properly match the transmitter output to the outside antenna, which screws into the top of the tuning box.

The TH transmitter output is not designed to match directly to the outside antenna by itself.


 
Posted : 18/11/2010 10:49 pm
 Anonymous
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If you look on the back of the transmitter, you will find the "F" connector for the external antenna connector in close proximity to the switch which feeds the radio signal directly to the connector. The outdoor antenna connector REQUIRES the use of the "range extender/tuner" and RG-6 (73 ohm) coaxial feedline with matching series "F" connectors at each end.

There are two reasons for this. One, an external antenna cannot be used with just the cable and antenna and still maintain FCC certification (range extender required). And second, the transmitter requires the tuning circuitry of the "range extender/tuner" to properly match the transmitter output to the outside antenna, which screws into the top of the tuning box.

The TH transmitter output is not designed to match directly to the outside antenna by itself.


 
Posted : 18/11/2010 10:49 pm
 Anonymous
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Has anyone experimented with a hf tuner capable of working the 160 meter band? Run the coax from the TH transmitter into the tuner and then out to a wire. Just an idea.


 
Posted : 19/11/2010 7:44 am
 Anonymous
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Has anyone experimented with a hf tuner capable of working the 160 meter band? Run the coax from the TH transmitter into the tuner and then out to a wire. Just an idea.


 
Posted : 19/11/2010 7:44 am
 Anonymous
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I'd be interested to know how well the TH unit performs with the range extender and outdoor antenna set-up, if anyone here has used it.


 
Posted : 19/11/2010 11:17 am
 Anonymous
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I'd be interested to know how well the TH unit performs with the range extender and outdoor antenna set-up, if anyone here has used it.


 
Posted : 19/11/2010 11:17 am
 Anonymous
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I'm currently using the Talking House remote antenna/tuner with my Talking House transmitter.

It is hands down easier to tune than adjusting coil taps or antenna lenght. Although my signal range varies daily with weather changes and time of day, this antenna performs well.

I have experimented with a long wire tuner on the Talking House. I find to many nulls in the pattern as the wire is horizontal and longer than a 1/4 wavelenght.

The talking House is FCC certified as a "system" to use the remote antenna. It gives me a warm fuzzy false sense of security about using a long coax lead in.


 
Posted : 19/11/2010 4:02 pm
 Anonymous
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I'm currently using the Talking House remote antenna/tuner with my Talking House transmitter.

It is hands down easier to tune than adjusting coil taps or antenna lenght. Although my signal range varies daily with weather changes and time of day, this antenna performs well.

I have experimented with a long wire tuner on the Talking House. I find to many nulls in the pattern as the wire is horizontal and longer than a 1/4 wavelenght.

The talking House is FCC certified as a "system" to use the remote antenna. It gives me a warm fuzzy false sense of security about using a long coax lead in.


 
Posted : 19/11/2010 4:02 pm
 Anonymous
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Thanks, mram1500.

I'm getting ready to relocate my studios to its own building and have been thinking about using this system for the over-the-air signal which would primarily be used to monitor the station on the family farm.

My "real" radio job was abolished, and I've been forced to look at doing something from home due to my visual disability. I've settled on doing freelance writing and building a business out of the radio station, although it will take the stream and affiliate stream to ever build anything viable.

The classic country on AM actually sounds pretty good, and I do a live morning show every weekday with traffic, weather, community news and such. But 1610 and 1620 aren't very good grequencies here, and the TH could be changed if the need arises.


 
Posted : 20/11/2010 3:52 pm
 Anonymous
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Thanks, mram1500.

I'm getting ready to relocate my studios to its own building and have been thinking about using this system for the over-the-air signal which would primarily be used to monitor the station on the family farm.

My "real" radio job was abolished, and I've been forced to look at doing something from home due to my visual disability. I've settled on doing freelance writing and building a business out of the radio station, although it will take the stream and affiliate stream to ever build anything viable.

The classic country on AM actually sounds pretty good, and I do a live morning show every weekday with traffic, weather, community news and such. But 1610 and 1620 aren't very good grequencies here, and the TH could be changed if the need arises.


 
Posted : 20/11/2010 3:52 pm
 Anonymous
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Well, it sounds like you have the ambition and experience to make a go of it. Keep us posted.

You say the station will primarily be used to monitor the programming. Will the over the air operation then be secondary to generating income, relying mostly on revenues from streaming audio? I see a long list of sponsors on your website.

Living in a noisey area, I can cover a radius of about 1/2 mile with a fair signal, being heard farther depending upon conditions. Living in a rural farm setting where it should be quieter, coverage should be pretty good.

My remote antenna is on the roof. I have six radials each about 12 feet long spaced equally around the base. I've often thought of moving it to ground level for some signal comparisons but that's another story.

Since I was old enough to turn on a radio, it's been a fascination. A small part of that dream is operating our City's TIS AM station. Although programming is limited to talk-information (automated), it's still a kick to know I'm connected to it. At about 8 watts with a 10 foot loaded antenna it easily covers a 4 mile radius.

Here's wishing the best to you and your station.


 
Posted : 20/11/2010 5:23 pm
 Anonymous
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Well, it sounds like you have the ambition and experience to make a go of it. Keep us posted.

You say the station will primarily be used to monitor the programming. Will the over the air operation then be secondary to generating income, relying mostly on revenues from streaming audio? I see a long list of sponsors on your website.

Living in a noisey area, I can cover a radius of about 1/2 mile with a fair signal, being heard farther depending upon conditions. Living in a rural farm setting where it should be quieter, coverage should be pretty good.

My remote antenna is on the roof. I have six radials each about 12 feet long spaced equally around the base. I've often thought of moving it to ground level for some signal comparisons but that's another story.

Since I was old enough to turn on a radio, it's been a fascination. A small part of that dream is operating our City's TIS AM station. Although programming is limited to talk-information (automated), it's still a kick to know I'm connected to it. At about 8 watts with a 10 foot loaded antenna it easily covers a 4 mile radius.

Here's wishing the best to you and your station.


 
Posted : 20/11/2010 5:23 pm
 Anonymous
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I do have the TH ATU, too. My experience was about the same as yours. Variable coverage with weather changes and the time of day.

Overall, it was a worthwhile purchase, albeit pricey. I bought it direct from Radio Systems for around $350.
They sent along 100ft of RG-6 with it, as well.


 
Posted : 21/11/2010 8:18 am
 Anonymous
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I do have the TH ATU, too. My experience was about the same as yours. Variable coverage with weather changes and the time of day.

Overall, it was a worthwhile purchase, albeit pricey. I bought it direct from Radio Systems for around $350.
They sent along 100ft of RG-6 with it, as well.


 
Posted : 21/11/2010 8:18 am
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