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This is kind of cool, Below is the text from page 1, it's a response letter from the FCC Chief Engineer on September 1 1994 to an inquiry made in regard to the proper labeling of a Part 15 device intended for marketing in both the U.S. and Canada.

https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/CZ57RRPRRX/92516.pdf

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This is in reply to your facsimile transmission of August 2, 1994, regarding the labelling of a low power communication device that will be marketed within the U.S. and Canada. You request approval to combine the labels for both countries, permitting a single label to be employed. As indicated, this combined label would read as follows:

"This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules and with RSS-210 of the Industry Canada. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) This device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation."

According to Section 15.19(a) of our rules, a low power communications device operating under Part 15 must be labelled with the specific statement contained in paragraph (a)(3). The only difference between the statement required under our rules and your proposed statement is the addition in the first sentence of the phrase... and with RSS-210 of the Industry Canada."

I note that Kwai Lum of Industry Canada, in a facsimile to you on August 3, 1994, has already given permission to use this combined label. I also agree that the use of this combined label, as shown above, is acceptable under our regulations. This label conveys the desired information and is essentially identical to our requirement. As expressed by Mr. Lum, text denoting compliance with the standards for both countries was not stated in our rules as it would is too presumptuous [to assume] that all products are for both markets."

I trust that the above responds to your inquiry. Additional questions should be directed to John Reed, 130084, at the address on the letterhead or at (202) 653-7313.

Sincerely.

Richard B. Engelman

Chief, Technical Standards Branch
Office of Engineering and Technology

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Page 2 is a copy of the fax dated August 3, 1994 from Kwai Lum of Industry Canada, that had been mentioned above.

The last 4 pages are from 2000 - and the first to actually indicate what the device might yet be. It's a reply letter from "The Radiation Laboratory. Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science", dated March 15, 2000, a STATEMENT OF MODIFICATIONS, consisting of one line and signed by Valdis V. Liepa, Research Scientist:

"There were no modifications made to this DUT by this laboratory. (Also see Section 3.1 of the Test Report)."

And what was this low power communication device?...
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Certification of Clifford/Rolls-Royce RX
Model: CZ57RRPRRX
FCC ID: CZ57RRPRRX
CANADA: to be provided

The product will be marketed and serviced by: Rolls-Royce Automobile Dealers in US and Canada.
_____________'

Best guess, it was a wireless car key. But what's with the "to be provided" in the Canada ID? - I'm guessing that Valdis just didn't have that ID number handy when he replied. Either that or Canadians had been illegally opening the doors to their Rolls Royces for 6 years.

I also wonder what had prompted the inquiry on if anything had been modified, but not going to bother to go digging around to find out!


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Posted : 17/11/2025 8:26 pm
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I found this particular comment of Chief Engineer Engelman intriguing:

"This label conveys the desired information and is essentially identical to our requirement. As expressed by Mr. Lum, text denoting compliance with the standards for both countries was not stated in our rules as it would be too presumptuous [to assume] that all products are for both markets."

The communications regulatory bodies of the US and Canada always struck me as closely bound, but I've never grasped the logistics of it (for lack the of a better word, don't know what word I'm looking for). But that quote struck me as an indication of it - whatever it is.

(Spellcheck changing my words! Why the edits)


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Posted : 17/11/2025 8:45 pm
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@richpowers I have no idea of why words are being edited.


 
Posted : 17/11/2025 10:57 pm
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@mark No, I mean right after posting I noticed somewhere around where I said "particular" there were 2 words that didn't belong, forget what they were but knew it was because I hadn't been looking at what I was typing and so came back and edited it. But immediately after I noticed there were also wrong words a couple lines down.. so came to fix them since I hadn't noticed the first time...

Then... For no reason whatsoever, felt compelled to edit a third time to explain why all the edits, and in a rush fearing the time to edit would run out any second now, I fumblely said: "Spellcheck changing my words! Why the edits"

In other words, It was all me, I didn't mean to imply the spellcheck was doing anything other than what it's supposed to do.

Now what were we talking about?

 

 


 
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